Hi Evan Just like any were in the world being able to say a few basic phrases get you a long way in the hearts of people. Including the return trip and a few fun evening allow about 1000€. This is what I took foe 7,2 Kgs
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Some friends and I are heading out this morning, 3/30/12, to do this hike. We have been looking forward to it for a few weeks now!! Thanks for posting it!
Ended up doing this in two half days by camping at Carter Gap Shelter the first night then onto the parking lot the next day. This trail is best when done clockwise just for the Albert Mountain climb. Im not sure of the Kimsey Creek trail but the Lower Ridge Trail is in need of a chainsaw and some switchbacks. That was the worst 4 miles of the trip. If I do it again I'll try the Kimsey Creek.
This trip can be done much faster, we did it slow and relaxing. I wish I had done the Kimsey Creek trail, but the Lower Ridge Trail had not been GPS yet that I could find. It also gave us a speedy exit to drive back to FL that day. One of the nice thing about the area is you can take some different routes in the area. Make sure you check out some of the other posts of this trip as it is quite popular--an justifiably so!
We survived the one day hike with only minor issues!! About 5 miles from Standing Indian an old Army injury reared its ugly head and slowed me down some. (Bad knees) I told the other hikers not to wait on me while on the trail and I would meet them at the camp site up ahead. Well when I got there no one was around. I waited for about 30 mins thinking maybe they just went site seeing nearby and then noticed fresh trekking pole holes at the beginning of the Lower Ridge Trail so, I set off. This was at about 7pm. Needless to say my friends weren't on that trail, yet anyways, and when I got to the first camp site on the Lower Ridge Trail I stopped to wait. Backing up a bit, before heading down the Lower Ridge Trail I sent them both a text while I had signal asking where they were. When I got to the camp site my phone went off. They had gone to the Standing Indian Shelter. There was some confusion on whether we would be taking the Lower Ridge Trail or Kimsey Creek Trail. I sent a reply that I was on the LRT, again while I had signal, and then waited to see if they showed up. I wasn't even sure they got my text but, I started a fire while at the camp and then waited. This was at 9pm. At 1030 pm I figured they hadn't gotten my message and really didn't know where they were. Now, all my training says stay put and wait for others to find you but, something took over and told me to just get back to the parking area and wait there. So, at 1030, I put out my fire with my remaining water and headed off towards the parking area. When I hit the old road that intersects with the LRT I tried to be smart and hang a right. Looking at the map it appeared I could follow this old road until it hit the main road leading to the camp site and parking area. After about .75-1 mile it became so over grown I had to abandon my plan, turn around, and go back to the LRT and continue on. I continued down the LRT and in the distance and through some trees I finally saw a light. Was it a house? The trail head and parking lot? What? It was a campsite where someone had left a lantern burning. I approached and called out to see if anyone was awake. No answer but, at an adjacent campsite there was a man and wife still awake (1200 am)and I asked them which way back to the parking area. They directed me and all of a sudden out of no where my other friends show up from the LRT just behind me!! We couldn't believe we didn't hear each other. We chuckled and thanked the couple for directing us and off we went. We got to the car around 1215 and set off for home. Very worn out and at the same time pumped from the adventure we had just had!!!
Start time: 0845
End time: 1215
Total time 15.50 hours
We are all looking forward to the next one!!
Some friends and I are heading out this morning, 3/30/12, to do this hike. We have been looking forward to it for a few weeks now!! Thanks for posting it!
Ended up doing this in two half days by camping at Carter Gap Shelter the first night then onto the parking lot the next day. This trail is best when done clockwise just for the Albert Mountain climb. Im not sure of the Kimsey Creek trail but the Lower Ridge Trail is in need of a chainsaw and some switchbacks. That was the worst 4 miles of the trip. If I do it again I'll try the Kimsey Creek.
This trip can be done much faster, we did it slow and relaxing. I wish I had done the Kimsey Creek trail, but the Lower Ridge Trail had not been GPS yet that I could find. It also gave us a speedy exit to drive back to FL that day. One of the nice thing about the area is you can take some different routes in the area. Make sure you check out some of the other posts of this trip as it is quite popular--an justifiably so!
We survived the one day hike with only minor issues!! About 5 miles from Standing Indian an old Army injury reared its ugly head and slowed me down some. (Bad knees) I told the other hikers not to wait on me while on the trail and I would meet them at the camp site up ahead. Well when I got there no one was around. I waited for about 30 mins thinking maybe they just went site seeing nearby and then noticed fresh trekking pole holes at the beginning of the Lower Ridge Trail so, I set off. This was at about 7pm. Needless to say my friends weren't on that trail, yet anyways, and when I got to the first camp site on the Lower Ridge Trail I stopped to wait. Backing up a bit, before heading down the Lower Ridge Trail I sent them both a text while I had signal asking where they were. When I got to the camp site my phone went off. They had gone to the Standing Indian Shelter. There was some confusion on whether we would be taking the Lower Ridge Trail or Kimsey Creek Trail. I sent a reply that I was on the LRT, again while I had signal, and then waited to see if they showed up. I wasn't even sure they got my text but, I started a fire while at the camp and then waited. This was at 9pm. At 1030 pm I figured they hadn't gotten my message and really didn't know where they were. Now, all my training says stay put and wait for others to find you but, something took over and told me to just get back to the parking area and wait there. So, at 1030, I put out my fire with my remaining water and headed off towards the parking area. When I hit the old road that intersects with the LRT I tried to be smart and hang a right. Looking at the map it appeared I could follow this old road until it hit the main road leading to the camp site and parking area. After about .75-1 mile it became so over grown I had to abandon my plan, turn around, and go back to the LRT and continue on. I continued down the LRT and in the distance and through some trees I finally saw a light. Was it a house? The trail head and parking lot? What? It was a campsite where someone had left a lantern burning. I approached and called out to see if anyone was awake. No answer but, at an adjacent campsite there was a man and wife still awake (1200 am)and I asked them which way back to the parking area. They directed me and all of a sudden out of no where my other friends show up from the LRT just behind me!! We couldn't believe we didn't hear each other. We chuckled and thanked the couple for directing us and off we went. We got to the car around 1215 and set off for home. Very worn out and at the same time pumped from the adventure we had just had!!!
Start time: 0845
End time: 1215
Total time 15.50 hours
We are all looking forward to the next one!!
Reading this after I tried to do the Harper Creek/Raider trail loop this Sunday. Should have had a better map! Blew right past Harper Creek Falls on the way around, hiked for a few hours along what (I thought was) still the Harper Creek trail but lost the orange blaze and everything was only white blaze (MST). Turned around and enjoyed the awesomeness of the falls on my way back. Will hit South Harper Creek falls from the west next time as you mentioned. I too had very hot heat, made creek crossings and my dip at the falls even better! Wish I had read your write up BEFORE I left! - Duff
Glad you were able to enjoy it! This is a fabulous area, and I am thankful we are able to explore it, but they could improve a few aspects of it, like better trail management.
Hey so I did it today! The whole Harper Creek/Raider Camp Trail loop. Went counter-clockwise as you did above.
NOTES FOR HIKERS ON THIS TRAIL:
1. Read cbhiker's description above, it is spot on. I too recommend doing this loop in a counter clockwise fashion, as Raider Camp is MUCH easier, especially after the (often) grueling (but worthwhile) Harper Creek trail.
2. Harper Creek Trail really is NOT well maintained, particularly between where the MST trail heads north and South Harper Creek Falls (between 12 and 9 o'clock position when looking at map). Orange blazes here are REALLY sparse and often hard to locate, particularly at creek crossings. Sections of trail are VERY overgrown, making navigation difficult. I had my USFS Wilson Creek trail map and felt comfortable, but this hike might have pushed me over the edge to get a GPS.
3. The point where Harper Creek trail diverges from sharing the MST is NOT very clear. I blew right past it last time. Just a simple very faded orange tape appeared as a flag next to a very thin trail. If you keep seeing white blazes (MST) without orange blazes too, you gotta go back.
4. The connector trail between HCT and RCT is confusing, I'd like to recap how to navigate it here but unfortunately cannot. Have a good sense where you are and look at your map. If you pass the posted private property on your left after passing the falls, you missed the connector trail (again, this is provided you are doing loop in counter clock fashion).
5. This is a beautiful and very rewarding hike. View of the falls from the overlook is awesome. Prepare to get wet in Harper Creek (not a bad thing in summer). Bring map, GPS, sense of direction and thirst for adventure.